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jon

Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 99 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: all this up and down is giving me a headache |
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Maybe it's time i stood up and admit i'm facing depressional issues.
Right now i can go weeks feeling great and happy and care-free about anything and everything and nothing. I'm fine, i'm happy and i am my usual self. And then for some reason greatly unknown i'll get this massive hyper state. Almost like i'm drunk, without consuming alcohol... like the same effect ecstasy gives you. This lasts for at the most... about a few hours... 2/3. Then without warning... BAM!! I'm crying my feckin eyes out. This state lasts for just as long as the hyper stage lasts... about 2/3hrs.
Then i'm fine. As if nothing happened. And i'll be sat there thinking: What the hell was that?
Then i'll forget about it... few weeks later and i experience the same thing.
Unfortunately today's been different. I woke up in a terrible mood. I'm NEVER in a terrible mood... that state is like alien to me. So then i start crying about stuff. And thats practically lasted all day up until now where i'm all happy and good again.
I dont know whether i'm coming or going. If i was in a constant state of sad, that would be fine.... or if i could remain happy, that would also be fine. But it's the fact that one minute i'm up, the next i'm down... i'm getting a little sea sick.
And i dont know what the point of this thread really is... I just want to find something that will keep me up, always.
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thedreadpersephone Advisor


Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 913 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Hi Jon. Sounds like you have some major mood swings there. Have you spoken to your doctor about it? _________________ Check out the Tzone team bios (including mine!) at: http://www.transgenderzone.com/bio.htm
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Sean boi
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think you should talk to a doc about it.
Sounds like you could have bipolar disorder. It can be very well controlled with mood stabilizers such as anti-convulsants/lithium etc.. so I think if you spoke to the doc, s/he'd be able to refer you to a consultant psychiatrist who could diagnose/assess you and put you on meds if it's necessary..
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william Tzoner

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 765 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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..or it could be just plain old depression. going to the doc won't hurt though, and you can try out a few different kinds of anti-deps to find one that works for you and hopefully stabilizes your moods. _________________ forum moderator
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jon

Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 99 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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i just reckon it's the stress of everything. I dont like stress and i like to think i am stress free... so i guess this is my brains way of diverting the stress and turning it into depression... Thats my thoughts on the issue. Maybe a doc can help... I guess i can say as much as i like that i'm fine now and it wont happen again.... But if it's happened once... twice... three times...???
Thanks guys, guess i'll go to a doc.
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Reenie Reporter


Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 3577 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Certainly one for the doctor, this, and make sure you have a good one.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend anti-depressants as these could mess your head up even more, particularly when you withdraw from them. Better to deal with the cause rather than brush the symptoms under the carpet.
You've identified stress as the possible cause of your woes. We all need stress in order to function, but ideally no more than we are able to deal with comfortably. No stress leads to a very dull, boring and frustrating life.
Identify the causes of your stress and if you're overburdened, kick the unnecessary ones out of your life. _________________ The Daily Turnout - King of the Throne Room
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Nathan Tzoner

Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 810 Location: Brighton
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: all this up and down is giving me a headache |
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| jon wrote: | | i'll get this massive hyper state. Almost like i'm drunk, without consuming alcohol... like the same effect ecstasy gives you. This lasts for at the most... about a few hours... 2/3. Then without warning... BAM!! I'm crying my feckin eyes out. This state lasts for just as long as the hyper stage lasts... about 2/3hrs. |
...sounds very familiar.
ive heard all sorts about anti-deps and that they can cause long term dependancy/addiction and mess your head up big time. scary shit as my gp wants me on them pronto.
doesnt taking lithium make you dependant on it for life?? _________________ "...risk something, take back whats yours, say something that you know they might attack you for..."
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william Tzoner

Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 765 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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most docs will prescribe fluoxetine which won't cause dependancy and replaces the ''happy hormones'' in your body and should stabalise your moods. i was on them for a while last year and they were easy to come off.
it depends on the severeness of the depression but i wouldn't just shove anti-deps to the side. they help people to be strong enough to overcome what is causing their mood swings. _________________ forum moderator
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thedreadpersephone Advisor


Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 913 Location: Dundee
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I think it would be wise to note here that none of us are doctors and anything we have to say about medication is based on our personal experiences or anecdotal evidence. Therefore it shouldn't be taken as 100% fact. If you are worried about your mental health then the only real solution is to see your doctor.
Having said that, I'm still going to say my piece because I find all this talk of dependency and withdrawal rather alarmist. Your doctor might diagnose depression and prescribe antidepressants - most likely for a shorter period in combination with some sort of talk therapy (counselling or seeing a psychologist or other therapist). The most sensible use of antidepressants is to use them to balance your moods until you can get a handle on the underlying issue. Of course a few unfortunates end up taking them for long periods or for life, but I think that's mainly due to necessity rather than addiction. Many drugs have side effects including potential dependency, it's a question of whether the side effects are worse than the original condition.
If your doctor thinks it's something other than depression, for example manic depression, he'd probably refer you to a psychiatrist for diagnosis. Fluoxetine (aka Prozac) is used to treat depression and OCD, but not manic depression as far as I know.
As for lithium, up to 15% of people with manic depression eventually succeed in comitting suicide. Lithium can prevent about 60% of these suicides. Better to be on lithium for life than to be dead.
I probably sound like a drug rep or something - sorry! I'm no more keen on unnecessary medication than anyone, and I do think antidepressants are overprescribed. But that doesn't mean you should rule out their use in all circumstances. _________________ Check out the Tzone team bios (including mine!) at: http://www.transgenderzone.com/bio.htm
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Mike Tzoner


Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1049 Location: North west, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ive been on anti-depressants for ermmm lets see.... id say about 8 years now. Ive tried alot of them in that time and none of them have made me dependant on them whatsoever. You're GP will prescribe medication to suit your needs.
While i'll say that anti-depressants can be heplful in lifting your mood, they are not a cure. From my personal experience, id say if you are goin to start on them id ask your GP to refer you for counseling too. Anti-depressants wont fix the cause of the depression. Only you can do that with alot of talking. Finding the problem and finding ways to deal with it along with the anti-depressants should level your moods out.
I will say tho, from my experience. Even on anti-depressants you do occassionally still have good and bad days. I just dont want you to start takin them and expect everythin to be rosey in the world.
Like I said these are only my opinions from my own personal experience, im sure whatever you and your GP decide to do will be best for you.
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Juz Advisor


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Try to deal with it yourself, first of all. What you're describing doesn't sound that bad and instead of running to a doctor who really doesn't give a toss about you and your condition, just try to fight it yourself first.
I sound rude, I know. But going over it yourself adds so much to one's self-confidence and self-esteem.
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ice maiden Advisor


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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have you experienced these feelings all of your life as it could be manic depression (bi polar) exacerbated by your increased new found trans status _________________ Man [...] must count no one but himself; that he is alone, abandoned on earth in the midst of his infinite responsibilities, without help, with no other aim than the one he sets himself, with no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth." (Jean Paul Sartre, 1943)

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Sean boi
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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I ahev bipolr disorder and his symptoms sound exactly like mine before I went on meds _________________ Girl/ boy/ butch/ femme.. I'm just ME!
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Han79

Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 365 Location: West Midlands - UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like your drinking too much Vimto!
Seriously though... I'd be inclined to speak with your GP. I had quite a bad time in 2005 and my doctor said to me "this never fixes itself".
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