That is not true.

Although even here on the NHS it is accepted that Transsexualism is a bilogical and not a psycological condition and is not one based on self diognosis they are moving towards it being categorised more as an intersex condition the use of words yes is phonetics in many ways but a way to distinquish from the old previous incorrect view of the condition based before addiquate research was carried out and one which describes the condition today in an enviroment where more research has been carried out. It also moves away from the terms trans and sexualality as suffering from harry benjamin syndrom does not mean we share a common goal with transvestites for instance while i feel it is a free society and no one should be discriminated against equally this group of people suffering from HBS does not mean we share a common goal with this particualar group this is not saying one is better than the other far from it just that we have differences between us. Similarly the sexualality part hence Trans"sexual" in some ways can suggest that the condition involves sexual deviancy as the public view it from hearing the term or that it involves matters around our sexuality which is also not true sexaulity is a totally different subject here.

Tarabeth got the point!!

Transgenders and Crosdressers are just the same as transvestites. Men wearing womans clothes.

Some of those people are also changing from heterosexuals to bisexuals when dressed up. Other has an kind of a fetish in their dressing......

We are woman wearing womans clothes, this is the mainly difference.
We are mostly heterosexuals, we can have another sexuality as well but we are not changing our sexual preference like people above, and we don't have a fetish this way. We can, of course be lesbian too but in matter of fact not gays

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Hi sophie do you really feel that in regards to sexuality?

Personally I dont think sexuality and your sex is connected I am a lesbian but yet I am also a HBS woman. I also have no reason to shout and be hurtful or predjudice towards transvestites or groups of people under that category except when the distinction between HBS or Transsexualism what ever people will call it is not made as it is clear one is a medical issue and one is not. Without it the public will continue to be confused and thus neither group will gain acceptance within society in their own right.

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transvestites and crossdressers are men thou hun this isnt saying someone who is Transsexual or HBS which ever term we use is better or worse simply they have a medical condition and were assigned the wrong sex at birth this is all like any other inter sexual condition as the closest comparison to transsexulism or like HBS supporters the category it falls in.

The issue isnt surgury makes you a woman but having HBS being transsexual does surgury is just part of the treatment pathway. Two reasons why the media call us all dressing men is one lack of education and publicity and secondly to a smaller degree they often find it hard to distinguish between Transexual HBS people and transvestite and crossdressers who all fall under one label at present this in my opinion can lead to confusion nobodies fault so much as it can lead to ignorant people carrying on those ignorant views.

This is why HBS supporters believe that As a recognosed medical condition whether you call it Transexuality or HBS they gain more of their own identity so that this ignorance can be overcome not about bashing other transgender people and im sure many people who are transsexual or HBS would support the transgender community to not be discriminated against and gain their own rights however the differences should be celebrated on both sides through education ignorance is erradicated and with this both transvestites crossdressers and HBS transsexual people will have a better chance of educating and changing the views of some of society.

I dont ignore transmen flameboy i know you werent talking to me but from a HBS perspective i think things are very similar but i dont discuss the topic much simply as i am not a transman and as such cant talk from personal experience and it would not be my place to do so. I am a supporter of HBS but equally i dont think anyone should be discriminated against or isolated from society i dont think anyone is better than anyone else just that we all have differences too which we should celebrate.

hope this comes across in my posts and if it hasnt i hope this clears that up

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why? do you take issue with that legally and medically this is the case i dont believe you can change your sex if you just want to if you are transsexual or HBS then you were wrongly assigned your sex at birth. By calling a transvestite a man this is not saying we are better just different. If you want to have another view which maybe is more in way of removing gender binaries then that is for you to have but i dont support or agree with that opinion although you are free to have it.

What is people's problem with staying on topic?
The stuff about definitions of the transgender community stops here on this thread. This has absolutly nothing to do with the article posted at the start of the article if you really want to have this rant, just like your rant on self medding then take it to another thread.
STAY ON TOPIC!
I'm keeping my own views on the extreamly controversial points raised to myself until a new thread is created. I will not throw fuel onto the fire here

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i tried to stay on topic if your reffering to me "ranting" which is not a productive term then please look at the path of the thread i simply responded to a person who had already gone off topic my points on this thread started by saying liverpool and mersyside doesnt have a policy for treatment for which our LGBT is doing something about. I agree if people have any other issues to take them to other threads but please dont direct a point towards me when i am not the only person and not the main person taking this off topic.

Would you like any more rope or would you say you have enough?

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is there any need for comments like that?

I havent directed comments of that nature towards you.

There's a good need for it

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