Hi,

I'm completely new and in no way a new account for someone that too much personal info in their old account! Just so you know :o)

Anyone think what I'm thinking when they read this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1263758.stm

"I cannot see any medical grounds for doing this."

How unimaginative. Maybe some day in the future there will be a 'Body Exchange' sub forum here :^D

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O, and on a random note that no-one will care about (but I just wanted to tell someone) I've found some 'space to occupy'. After taking two days off work to do some intense thinking, I ended up seriously considering suicide, even down to working out exactly how it would be done and everything, but didn't have enough courage to go through with it. Well I've come out the other side of that dark tunnel without falling down any holes and with a clearer idea of what to do with myself.

I was thinking of a MtF transition (and still am) but I'm not 100% sure it's the right thing to do. Also I don't much like the idea of being 'a bloke in a wig' with a 5 o'clock shadow and male voiuce and all. I've done it, it's bearable but not so dignified.

Anyway....I've decided to become androgynous over the next months. Grow head hair, get facial electrolysis and work on the voice. This is all reversible (bar the electrolysis - but no more shaving is a good thing anyway ;-) and will allow me to do some exploring. In my mind being androgynous allow me to do what the *&^* I want and is a sensible stepping stone to MtF anyway. Yey me.

I'm confused as hell tbh, I recently found out about 'penetrating, thrusting and mounting' urges from online and people talking to me (like saying, don't you have [above]). This concept is new to me. I've enjoyed personal time with girlfriends and it felt good and all, but no idea about these penetrating urges. I feel more like I want to be penetrated, but not by a man (imagining kissing a man I dislike, but very like kissing women) and let's leave my behind out of this - it's a one way system. Nothing is simple......

If you bothered to read all that thx very much :o)

Peace,
GQ (feeling happy and floaty (no I'm not stoned :-p ))

Edit: Sorry if that personal bit was too intense I needed to get it off my chest probably should have made it a seperate post somewhere else, oh well

Hello!

Well I guess I'll believe in brain transplants if and when it happens successfully LOL

I tend to think when people don't have the "courage" to commit suicide, it's more that there's some part that really doesn't want to die, that still has some hope

Anyways like you said you can grow hair, remove that on your face, and train the voice, which, if you need to transition to female, would likely help you look something more than "bloke in a wig"

But yes if after that you find it's not right, it's all reversible, except for like you said permanent hair removal but as many men don't grow beards I doubt that'd be an obstacle.

By all means explore and/or do what you need to

Whatever you're attracted to is rather unrelated to your own gender identity. There are many MtFs who are lesbian and FtMs who are gay (or either that are bi or pansexual, or for that matter asexual)

For a while my plan was to make loads of money, then about 40 years in the future have my brain transplanted into sexy teenage girl (possibably a female clone of me).

Then I read about sex change stuff and decided that that was a bit more realistic.

The successful transplantaion of monkey brains into human subjects would explain a lot

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See, this is why I kept putting off the idea of actually doing something about my gender dysphoria - the hope that medical science might one day advance enough to make this possible within my lifetime.

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I'd like to be able to download my brain onto an external hard-drive, replace the damaged nerves that I have and reboot...

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the problem with brain transplants is that the nerve tissue dies and doesnt regenerate- also the process of of growing into the new body would be somewhat problematic

but then again.....all hope was lost in regards to brain transplants until the dawn of the stem cell(ES cell) age..

who knows....it'd sure make things hella easier

and it begs the question....if people have phantom limb sensations....phantom body? Also..is there really such a thing as a ghost in the shell?

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I have several fond memories that I can replay at will. They're screamingly funny in the same way as a Tom and Jerry cartoon. I'm chuckling even now as I contemplate the idea, Mike.

Of course, if we could download our brains it implies that we could upload them too. Imagine being able to debug your psychiatric illnesses without going to a shrink who's already three-parts loco on account of the patients he's seen.

There again there are sinister possibilities. The government could reprogram the lot of us. Mind you, isn't that what telly is for?

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Good point Reenie. That would be one approach to "curing" gender dysphoria. I'm not quite sure whether it'd be the right one though.

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Gender dysphoria will probably turn out to be a hardware problem and so defy this approach.

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Hi, sorry for posting the suicide bit - too heavy!. Any cynics might see it as attention seeking but I can assure you it wasn't nor are suicidal thoughts common for me. If I'd been able to 'just do it' first thing in the morning I would not be here now, but after the planning and preperation (if you are going to suicide it's very important that you actually die) I just got stuck in total lethargy not eating, drinking, moving or smoking(!). tbh I feel a bit of a twat for posting it. I didn't tell anyone in RL and I partly posted it here to give some context to the thoughts that followed and because I needed to tell someone and didn't want to deeply distress people close to me, sorry if it upset anyone here due to experiences in your life or anything.

Up to that point I had been thinking about transitioning almost 24/7 and it was affecting my work and social life and I felt like I was going mental. Taking this new route through the jungle is good because I can actually DO something without needing anyone's permission, it gives me time to think while I have to wait months for stuff to happen (Baby Bio does NOT help hair growth btw! ), will make the transition run more smoothly, will help friends and family accept the idea more gradually and gives me a chance to do some 'gender exploration' with a more middle ground appearance. Oh and I've stopped thinking about the whole thing for every waking minute

Thanks Skyler for your response btw .

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Back on topic of brain transplants, do men and women typically have different size/shaped skulls? Be a bummer if they could connect up the nerves but then you had a brain rolling around or squishing out your ears! Plz don't attack me (not that you are likely to :p) about saying different brain sizes is sexist or something (I don't even know if it's the case) as elephants have massive brains but you never see elephants winning nobel prizes!

GQ

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