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Reenie
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of kids playing knock-down-ginger won't have the police running 'round. Nor will tipping a bucket of piss on them from the bedroom window.

If they're a bit older and throwing solid objects at windows, then we're looking at harassment.

Anyway, there's no evidence here, just hearsay.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hellfrozeover wrote:
Macdee wrote:
HFO...... Your all heart. Rolling Eyes


It's called common sense, the woman had her window knocked on (THAT IS ALL THAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT, SHE EVEN SAID IT HERSELF ON HER OWN SITE) and then told people her house was attacked. I don't know what the wanted outcome was but to me it stinks of attention seeking and playing the martyr card to put it simply. To call it an attack really is verging on ridiculous and is toeing the line between exaggeration and lying.


You really aren't a nice person are you FO, if this constant stuff was happening to you you would feel different, now I'm targetted on my phone, for your information my friend was chopping vegetables in the kitchen at the time and could have done serious damage when she was startled, as she a knife in her hand.

The police took the incident seriously

I am not an attention seeker for your information, I am a constant victim of hate crime, thats what the police describe it as, not me. And to verbally insult another member of this forum is as far I'm aware supposed to be against the rules.

I have had witnesses to incidents including the one you describe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never said I was trying to be nice did I? What I am being is realistic. I've seen it all before: the transsexual who thinks hormones will do absolutely everything for her and screams blue murder when all they do is give a little bit of a boost in the chest department. The same one who constantly campaigns for things she needs under the guise of doing it on the representation of transsexuals as a whole. The same one again who spurns the advice of others who have been there and says her situation is completely different/special. The one(same person again!) who constantly creates petitions that will more than likely cause the government to think 'hey, these transsexuals are getting a little too big for their boots, let's cut back'. The woman who walks everywhere with her head down and looks shifty therefore drawing negative attention to herself. It's the same person again! This woman identifies as transsexual and can't see past that, she set out to be a victim from the start and if anyone gives her a light at the end of the tunnel, it's too bloody hard to reach. Guess what? It's you and you weren't the first or the last!

I've had people get in contact on here and elsewhere saying that they're glad that I at least said something because so many people wanted to but didn't. Sure I might be a bitch but at least I don't emotionally snare people with grim exaggerations. You don't help yourself. You refuse to move when you could quite easily play the trans vulnerability card(come on, you'd be great at it!). I've seen someone do it and they got placed in a decent area. If you intend on staying put then really, you've made your bed haven't you? How can you complain about a changeable situation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit: I need to think on this more perhaps

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel, what you may not realise is that people who are subjected to sustained victimization come to live in constant fear, and so become over-sensitised, so that even small incidents can and often do cause them great distress.

Such a situation as this can only be understood by looking at the cumulative history of events over time, rather than at any one single incident in the series, which may not be considered very serious if viewed - falsely - as if had occurred in isolation.

Most trans people who have had their emotional resources worn away by sustained harassment, and have appealed in vain to others for help, know exactly what is meant by 'Blame the Victim.'

Let's not do that here.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit: Takign this to PM's actualy

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first moved in with my girlfriend, this was in a nice village with her two young kids (10 and 13 at the time), when I used to walk from the bus home this young lad started following me shouting "Oi, are you a man or a woman". This could have had repercussions on both my new girlfriend and more importantly her kids of which the boy went to the same school as this lad. Village talk spreads and idiots like this attract the attention of much worse people who won't just throw insults at you. I had one of what I saw at the time of three options.

A) Punch his lights out (not an option as I would get in trouble)
B) Try to talk to him (see EDIT below)
C) Ignore Him (got my GF to pick me up which sorted the problem)

What I did was I had to get my partner to pick me up from the bus stop every day thus not drawing the attention from other adult passers by and teenagers who were more likely to do worse stuff than he was doing.

The funny thing was my (now) stepson became mates with this lad and fetched him home to tea (He didn't know about the trouble I'd had with him). His face was a picture when I said hello to him before we sat down to eat and was as polite as anything.

EDIT: One thing I would like to add to this is I did try the "talk to him" option and as I walked right up to him he was as nice as pie and said he was sorry but still continued the verbal taunts the next day.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephanie...

This is probably the third different forum i have said this, so excuse me for saying it again.

I know that you have had the chance to move away from that site, that help has been given to you to get away from there... now it's simple... you have 2 choices...

1. Move away and be happy...
2. Stay there and be unhappy...

Now i would suggest option 1 would be a better option to take up, because people are supportive for a period of time in forums, then they start to think why am i being ignored, why is it that peoples suggestions are not being taken on board... so this is my last time i suggest it...

Stop looking at the negatives..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like I'm going to have to put differences to one side for a bit and agree with Denise. She's right and if people don't actually see you doing something to improve your situation (and they haven't) then you're going to get worse than the replies you've received already, you're going to get ignored which I doubt you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denise, could you kindly confirm that by signing yourself off as the London representative of the Gender Trust, that the views you appear to be supporting in this thread are thereby the official position that the Trust is taking of Stephanie's situation.

Could you clarify this point, please? Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it makes it easier for you Stella i've taken the signature off, although i am aware GT are aware of Stephanies issues it's my opinion so i'll drop the signature


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stella Maru wrote:
Could you clarify this point, please? Smile

Is this a Spinwatch request, Stella? I think we should be told. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denise Anderson wrote:
If it makes it easier for you Stella i've taken the signature off, although i am aware GT are aware of Stephanies issues it's my opinion so i'll drop the signature


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephanie can i ask what was the other 4 attacks?

and before i say anything else i do what you are going thou like my neighborhood is not that great some people may say im making a mountain out of a mole hill, but growing up in that neighborhood and making mistakes does not help matters like for making the wrong choices of friends and for my parents noting living together anymore and with my dad living only a 5 min walk away which means i cant fully come out of the "wardrobe" and if i did i would be a sorry girl, because one night a long time ago my father was out in one of the bar in the town when he was single and well lets just say he thought his lucky stars had just landed that night so (jsut to clear thing up she was a TS as well) so after a few drinks they were on there way home for well you know what!!! until they got out to the car park were she said what she was or something to that affect well the next thing that girl knew she was laying on the ground half died because of my dad, so i dont what to think on what would happen to me.

and with all that out of the way i just what to move out of this hell whole and i've played the trans vulnerability card and as of yet im still waiting with the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, and as for private renting i would not be able to pay half of the price they are looking for as for getting a loan well you could say i was silly in getting a credit card and maxing it out.

***********END OF RANT**************

just for a idea of what sort of fella live in my area http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gx5KZIvYc0

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh* I feel that a forum like this needs to hold back the issue of saying " Look everyone I'm being attacked I need back up now" sorry but I'm fed up with this kind of posting, and I'll explain why.

You need sharp wits and a strong mentality of dealing with problems that will happen, yeah it's not very easy but hell I've delt with the whole town because people are too bloody stupid to know anything else, which is why I'm not taking shit from anyone who tries to harrase me badly.

common sense and knowing how to deal with trans bulling is the way to survive, or else it's somthing not worth doing and people should just stay in the biological gender and perish like a moth at a flame.
(sad but true)

sorry but being transgended is not fantasy game, you'll have to deal with what comes with it the good and the bad.

so lets just get on with other things.

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