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how do i change my name legally?
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gothma_child



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: how do i change my name legally? Reply with quote

my employer needs an official ( looking) document to put in my file stating iv changed my name..any one else managed to do this? im lost..ta Dwayne.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. Just fill this in and get it witnessed by two mates:

http://www.bujman.com/share_it/deedpollsample.doc

It's a deed poll on change of name and good enough for the banks, DVLA, etc...

It's a good idea to print it on good quality paper. Make sure you get someone to proof-read it.

Alternatively, you can execute a statutory declaration at your local magistrate's court. Dave knows the score on this one.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be aware that even though you've printed it out and filled it in yourself, it is still a legally binding document, and once it's signed you're obliged to use your new name. Of course, you can always change your name again, but that just doubles the amount of hassle you have to go through changing it with banks and everywhere else.

To do a statutory declaration, just pop into your local magistrate's court. It cost £8 a few months ago when I did mine, and took about 15 minutes. They gave me a form to fill in, and then told me to turn up with it filled in any morning first thing. All I had to do was read it out in front of the magistrate, and then he signed it and gave it back to me - it was very quick and easy indeed!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used an online for-money deed poll service. Although legally everyone should accept one done yourself, a lot of places can get very picky indeed about this, and the extra expense for a formal document is probably worth avoiding the hassle of trying to educate them otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elliott wrote:
i was told that it was the only way that banks etc would recognise it.

Not so. My deed poll has not been rejected by anyone.

Squigglefish wrote:
Although legally everyone should accept one done yourself, a lot of places can get very picky indeed about this...

So you lay down the law. Assertiveness costs nothing.

Squigglefish wrote:
...and the extra expense for a formal document is probably worth avoiding the hassle of trying to educate them otherwise.

A fool and their money are easily parted. This is not an option for the unwaged or those on low income.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets see what haoppens when iv gome from f2m on my deed! oh iv changed my name to benjamin ( ben benji or the like.)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reenie, to call someone a fool for not wanting the hassle, transphobia, stress and depression of trying to convince someone in a position of power over you to accept your change of name is quite frankly itself foolish.

Given the tendancy of places to also think that a GRC is now needed, having all the help you can get is a good idea.

You are right that the £20-£40 fee for a formal service is not an option for those on low incomes, however for those of us who are, it has saved us immeasurable hassle.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, it's entirely up to the individual which method they choose - all we can do is offer our own opinions and advice based on our experiences.

My Stat Dec - a legal document from a court - is on a scruffy piece of paper with cat paw prints over it, and I've had no trouble whatsoever with it. When I realised that I wasn't getting a posh, official looking document, I was very worried that I'd have trouble, but that hasn't been the case. Maybe I've just been lucky though!

I might not have been reading closely enough, and my memory isn't alwasy the best, but I thought that people being asked for GRCs was largely when asking to change titles and gender markers, not for name changes though?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squigglefish wrote:
Reenie, to call someone a fool for not wanting the hassle, transphobia, stress and depression of trying to convince someone in a position of power over you to accept your change of name is quite frankly itself foolish.

I'm trying to convince my fellows to stand on their hind legs and show these bastards who's boss. What good does your preaching of cowardice give us? I'll tell you...

Squigglefish wrote:
Given the tendancy of places to also think that a GRC is now needed, having all the help you can get is a good idea.

...carte blanche to these aresholes to walk all over us.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is of course, a very obvious statement that could be made here regarding this tendancy for agression and asserting rightousness over others (even when it is justified). That statement however is based on falsehood, so I won't stoop that low.

It's not the suggestion that it should be done for free that is the issue, or that people should argue their case when challenged, but the assertion that everyone should always fight the hard fight no matter what their circumstance or the cost of that fight to them; and to further then call anyone who chooses not to do this 'fools'.

Whilst standing up for your rights is certainly something to encourage, it is not something that must be required to be done by pure confrontation by everyone, all the time. Yes, when the options are between the denial of rights or a hard fight, one should always fight to have those rights. However when faced with a choice between an easier time being granted rights, and a harder time for the exact same reward, you simply cannot call taking the easier route foolish when it is right for the person in question.

To flameboy, I was quite appauled by the story of your stat dec, they really should have done better for you. However one advantage the stat dec does have is that I presume it states that a legal official was involved. Social conditioning is such that this carries a lot of weight, as does simply a good-looking, high quality form (self-printed or not).

As for the GRC requests, I have heard many a tale about them. Changing titles is normally done together with deed polling, so the two go hand in hand. I have heard from people who had to educate their human resources department about how a GRC was not needed to change their name. The GRA, whilst damn useful, is causing all kinds of compounded problems in this regard, and is often confused with deed polling.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squigglefish wrote:
There is of course, a very obvious statement that could be made here regarding this tendancy for agression and asserting rightousness over others (even when it is justified). That statement however is based on falsehood, so I won't stoop that low.

I'm going to say something, er, no I'm not, er...

Waffle ye not. Shit or get off the pot.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rest of the post was not waffle. The begining was in part, I will admit.

As I rule, I have found what people online have chosen not to reply to far more telling than what they do actually reply to.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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