Welcome Adrian . I very much share your point of view on religion. I was also baptized, christian-orthodox, without it being my will (I was only 1 year old, as is the custom here...).

BlackandPurple, I couldn't agree with you more on "cult religions". Usually cult religions are just as organized as any other and I do not trust them just the same. It doesn't make much difference, to me, if a mob of ten have a following of a thousand or a mob of a million have a following of a billion... It is just a difference in quantity not in quality... Mobs with followings, just the same... And I can, also, imagine that a small mob can often be even more dangerous to it's small following than a larger one to it's own.

I also have to agree that what we call "science" has an important aspect of "belief" within it. To such extent that we could even call it a new type of religion... But of new type it is. And what's new about it is that it's beliefs TRY to be based on "logical" thought, observation, measurement, experimentation etc. Darwin's theory, which you mentioned, is actually far from being an "absolute truth". It is just ...theory, which, as a matter of fact, heavily reflects the social momentum of the age in which it was concieved: laissez-faire capitalism/ "survival of the fittest" etc. But still, through observasion and measurument, it does look closer to "reality" than the story of Adam and Eve and the Apple and all. "Closer to reality" does not mean "truth", of course.

I don't know if this looks like an over-simplistic conception to you, but I think paganism, apocalyptic religions (christianity, islam etc) and science are three very different types of "religion" or "human system of thought". Yes the "sightings" of Gods and Goddesses, I was previously referring to, had more to do with paganism. The "Universal God" of the apocalyptic religions is quite a different conception. And the "Universal Truth" of science is a still different conception.
I think that there is invaluable human wisdom and knowledge within all of these three systems of thought. The thing is how can we keep, from all of them, what is worthy and fruitful for us going further on as a spieces and throw away the aspects that have been proved a burden (this must had been bad English, I'm sorry...).

"Taking care of each other" well, yes this might just as well be an apocalyptic message into the 21st century!

"Respect Nature" that might be a pagan message into the 21st century!
You see, science or apacalyptic religions do not -as a whole- bear any true respect to Nature. Sad but true.

What could a message of science and "logical" thought be like? I am not quite sure... "Take care of and respect oneself", "everyone has the right to be oneself" and other such things, perhaps?

some of your comments I agree but the other parts I'm afraid are not true to the one God, paganisim is worshipping demons and spirits (that's not a good thing) I have read 5 books on witchcraft on which there are names of demons portraying as gods and godesses they are deceptive beings who toy with humanity DUH!

Science is partly the key to understanding the universe not all of it, which will be under that catergory which FAITH! comes in.

Helping eachother as part of the apocolypse??? WTF? what a rediculise idea that is, I'm talking about doing volenteer work and helping out the community doing stuff to help neighbours if their house is on fire all that stuff, it's got nothing to do with the revelation at all!

people need to think more clearly on this I'm afraid.

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Evoloution wasn't part of our design, if we were really part of the primemates why haven't they evolved as well?

there has been no real evidence of a chimp or ape that has become human because their DNA is different to ours they haven't evolved with us, so are we really from them? some species of organisims have evolved like reptiles and anphibions that can change sex depending their enviroment.

but for a prime mate to evolve in todays world their DNA would have to change, but never did.

so why haven't scientists figured a way of showing evoloution properly by proving they can change a chimps DNA and make the prime mate look more human and prove the world how it can be done?

because they CAN'T! that's the fact on their DNA strand.

and most monkeys have the intelligents of a 5yo human child, is there a way for them to become super intelligent and build a civilization the same as man?

most of this is science fiction.

we need to look more into this situation.

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BlackandPurple, Please watch this guy's videos:
http://uk.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=potholer54

Do you really think this has the answers?

I'm talking about full proof of seeing a monkey being evolved in a science lab with DNA modification!

not watching youtube crap!

give me some better evidence on DNA modification and I'll change my mind!

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you can train a monkey to do simple things like a human but has there been any ideas on why man looks the way they are for thousands of years and monkeys can't evolve into what we are in human bodily and mental delvopement?

There is a gene gap between humans and monkeys, and if prime mates haven't evolved in todays world then we do not come from them!

or else all monkeys would have become man and no monkeys would be exsisting today they would all be human beings.

have scientists ever thought on this theory?

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The first evolution came from fish and amphibious creature when they turned into reptiles and then dinosaurs were the first living creatures to be on the earth but why did they dissapear?

and then humans and other mamels pop up, but how did they exsist when nothing came before dinosaurs?

who was responsible of making a new breed of species that never exsisted before the dinosaurs?

God could have been the only one who can do this.

The planet cannot exsist with out a life foce who is responsible for starting off making the planet livable or else it would be a giant ball of rock in blackness of space, so why are other planets unliveable? yet the earth is the only place that is?

The planet wouldn't be livable without a life foce of God so how can the planet create itself as a living place without a source of living energy?

the big bang is just that a big bang nothing has been proven yet were the source of the explosion came from and again if a life force didn't do it then the universe would be pitch blackness because there is no living energy to make it happen.

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For all I know, it has been scientifically proven that chimps and humans share about 99% of their genes. As a matter of fact, it is now believed that not only are we part of the primates but some other primates (especially the chimps) should normally had been classified as "Homo". Other kinds of animals are classified in the same genus, having bigger gene differentiation between them than humans have with the great apes. It is our (arrogant) system of thought that makes us classify otherwise. Yes we have evolved into intelligent beings, indeed. But it is intelligent great apes that we are. We are not intelligent dolphins, nor butterflies...
Evolution is supposed to be a process that takes hundreds of thousands, even millions, of years. I would hate to see some frankenstein scientist trying to a "evolve" some poor chimp into a human...
All this of course, has not much to do with the search of "truth", with God and with other philosophical questions... They are just observable facts in what we like to call "reality". Nothing more, nothing less. Most probably we could observe such things, in the future, from some other points of view, too. Yes. But not from the point of view of compete belief to some Adam and Eve story. That's history.

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