If nature hadn't played this cruel trick on us all i'm wondering what jobs you lovely people would have had.

Me? i would have been either an air hostess (prefer that to the title stewardess to be honest) as my first choice or a nurse, probably going into midwiffery later.

Debs X

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Hate to say it but saying that being transsexual, transvestite or whatever kept you from your ideal job is just making excuses. The majority of jobs are open to you regardless of gender, they just need you to put a little work towards getting them. I'm studying to do what I want degardless of the situation I'm in, it isn't affecting what I want to do as a career one bit. I don't mean to snap about this but people hide behind the idea of being transgendered waaay too much when it comes to aspirations and careers and really shouldn't.

If you want to be a midwife or nurse, train now! Go for it! There are men in those professions now so transsexuals can't exactly be stopped.

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Hi HFO,
I didn't want to be a male steward on the airlines to be honest and it was probably the glamour of being a hostess that made me want to be one. and i have worked in nursing though doing mainly home care but have worked as an aux nurse in a hospital for a short time, started off in nursing and residential homes. at the mo i am studying to further this too. i asked the question because i was wondering if the attitudes/percieved attitudes of society have kept people away from their chosen/ideal profession. and what effect it has had on their life.

bestest

Debs X

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Good luck with your nursing . Maybe age is a problem with training as a stewardess(I don't know your age) now but as far as mdwifery and nursing goes, you should be able to follow the path you're interested in .

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well done

HFO is young beautiful and this helps

For many trans that look like the back of busues - this is a fair comment

as if they were not trans would they have had better opportunities

i suspect yes - as this is a barrier and a super glass ceiling trans are still treated worse than any other minority as trans a are a true minority

the other so called minorities are not really minorities anymore as they often ghetto their communities in regions or areas

trans are dispersed all over the place and so are often isolated and alone

their only hope is finding a partner who 'understands' and who is not just 'using them'

or a good job they can get stuck into and get some self esteem back - sadly employers are still dragging their feet and this is unlikely to change until they stop feeling sexually threatened by the idea of a trans person

after all its their sexual problems that get in the way

in the same way a person would not employ a gay sports person (this is really bad in the US) as they think they may get touched by them in the shower - they are thinking that not the gay person =)

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Man [...] must count no one but himself; that he is alone, abandoned on earth in the midst of his infinite responsibilities, without help, with no other aim than the one he sets himself, with no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth." (Jean Paul Sartre, 1943)

I agree Ice Maiden

HFO while it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of sex or gender identity, believe me it does happen. I pass very well and I've had many attempts from someone high up at my uni to try and stop me from finishing my programme of study. 'Trying harder' does not always help because employers etc often have the final say.

Also, in many places it is still legal for someone to be discriminated against on the basis of their appearance. Thus they may not be hired because they don't look 'pretty enough', because they don't pass well. But employers are crafty and have the excuse that they weren't discriminating based on their gender, but based on their appearance (or because they supposedly weren't as well qualified for the job). And yes, some people can fight that in court, but many transpeople don't have the money (after surgery, losing their family, and not being able to get a job) to take the matter to court with a decent lawyer.

A lot of potential job opportunities for me are crossed out because if I am discovered to be trans in certain countries, I run a strong risk of imprisonment (for 'crossdressing'), or physical or sexual assault. As an anthropologist in training that somewhat limits my job opportunities.

In a perfect world, I would be Quing (a genderqueer ruler! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!)

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(filename begins with 'Transgender People's Identity Development').

Learning how to generate inner and outer peace in the universe and myself.

just say you are a lesbian or gay trans Stella and you are OK

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Yes, Sam, that's exactly what I would advise anyone else to do in this situation.

No one will step forward to argue that a trans person is not queer - and in most cases that will have been the perception of the person refusing to provide the goods or service anyhow.

I, probably, would have been a long distance driver, or a truck / taxi driver. Always liked it.

would have?

dont they have taxis and trucks where you live

go on you know you want to - take a HGV (Heavy Goods Vehicle) Driving Test Juz x

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Man [...] must count no one but himself; that he is alone, abandoned on earth in the midst of his infinite responsibilities, without help, with no other aim than the one he sets himself, with no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth." (Jean Paul Sartre, 1943)

First, being what I am, no one would hire me as a truck driver. Real Life differs a bit from 1950ies Hollywood movies
Second, my vision is not perfect so I wouldn't pass the medical exam.

I want to be a comic artist! But that's hard and not always stable, so I'm going to major in language and teach English in Japan or Germany ^___^ And do my art on the side~