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**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1487 Location: Reading

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?

What changes did you notice first?

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

Do you self medicate? (any form of T).

If injecting? Do you get a nurse / GP to inject it for you?

These are some of the commonon questions that are being asked by all the guys who are pre and post Testosterone.

So, you can tell us here, about your changes, these will help all the young men coming here and the ones who have just started on T.

This is for you Finn. Smile

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Skyler · Tzoner Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 934 Location: Canada

Started with Sustanon 250

First thing I noticed was some growth down below. And soon crazy appetite and sex drive kicked in.

I'm now on testosterone enanthate

I don't think it's made a big difference other than I don't seem to emit an oily smell on shot day now Laughing

.

Um neither, I'm in Canada.

I don't really get any help, I've been the one educating psychs and doctors

I inject myself

nicholas · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 117

thefishkeeper wrote:

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?

What changes did you notice first?

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?

These are some of the commonon questions that are being asked by all the guys who are pre and post Testosterone.

So, you can tell us here, about your changes, these will help all the young men coming here and the ones who have just started on T.

i started on sustanon 100 - 100mg every 2 weeks - generally considered a 'half dose', at the age of 18. i then increased at 2 months in to 200mg every 2 weeks, which is more of a full dose.

i don't really remember what I first noticed... probably the obvious (down below) stuff. then i think it was my voice.

i originally got testosterone prescribed privately, but i've since had it transferred over to the NHS. i've recently moved, so i live in a completely different area now, but before i moved the NHS had offered me supervision at an andrology (i think thats what it was) place in central london, just to monitor my hormone levels, as it was evident i didn't really need a GIC anymore. however, i never followed through on that due to moving, and am yet to sort out anything similar in my new place, so for the moment i'm just getting my prescriptions covered by the NHS. i expect i should be able to get a blood test off my GP as well, but i have neglected seeing him again for a couple of months, due to pure laziness, really. i don't know if they're likely to offer me anythign similar to what i would have had in london, which is a bit of a shame.

i self inject. just for the record, it's probably worth changing the phrasing of that from 'self medicating' to 'self-injecting'. self-medding usually implies you're getting T illegally without the supervision of a doctor, so it seems misleading as a question.

**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1487 Location: Reading

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i self inject. just for the record, it's probably worth changing the phrasing of that from 'self medicating' to 'self-injecting'. self-medding usually implies you're getting T illegally without the supervision of a doctor, so it seems misleading as a question

As it happens there are guys out there who are doing just that! They have never been to see any doctor, or had bloods checked and lastly DO self medicate.

They get the T from the internet, after reading about it and the buying it them selves.

So the question will stay, sorry mate.

Wink

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nicholas · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 117

thefishkeeper wrote:

Quote:

i self inject. just for the record, it's probably worth changing the phrasing of that from 'self medicating' to 'self-injecting'. self-medding usually implies you're getting T illegally without the supervision of a doctor, so it seems misleading as a question

As it happens there are guys out there who are doing just that! They have never been to see any doctor, or had bloods checked and lastly DO self medicate.

They get the T from the internet, after reading about it and the buying it them selves.

So the question will stay, sorry mate.

Wink

i understand that people DO do that, but the way you phrased the question looked as if you meant it to say self-inject. if you meant self medicate literally, then fine, but it's a bit weird to leave out the fact that some guys get their testosterone legitimately and still self-inject.

Corti · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 191

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?

Cernos Gel
Testosterone USP 50mg, once a week, increased to once every 4 days.

What changes did you notice first?

Clitoral growth, the voice a bit, but it revertedagain and is still up and down. Belly hair.

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?

Testogel. It doesn't say what type of testosterone it is, but I would guess it is still USP. 50mg twice a day.

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

Not really. I have more body hair, and my facial hair is starting to come through, but that would be expected anyway, with just continuing the hormones.

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

Private, though I get my hormones through the NHS because my GP is awesome.

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

He just prescribes for me. And he has been chasing psychiatrists to try and get me a referral to CXH

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

I saw Dr. Curtis in August and I will see him again in December. I had already done nearly 1 year RLT so I didn't need any counselling or owt.

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?

n/a

**Flameboy**

thefishkeeper wrote:

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?

I'm on Sustanon 250 every 4 weeks, the standard starting dose at CX.

thefishkeeper wrote:

What changes did you notice first?

I've only had 2 shots so far - third one due on Friday this week. So far, my voice has dropped a bit, but that's about it really.

thefishkeeper wrote:

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?

Nope, though I'd like to be on a higher dose.

thefishkeeper wrote:

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

NA

thefishkeeper wrote:

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

NHS, via Charing Cross.

thefishkeeper wrote:

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

My doctor writes the prescription, and gave me the first shot. The practice nurse gives me the shots now. They're also going to be sorting out blood tests and so on for me.

thefishkeeper wrote:

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

NA

thefishkeeper wrote:

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?

As above, the GP or nurse inject for me, though I might see about self-injecting (NOT self medicating, which implies to me that I'd be sourcing the T myself) at some point.

thefishkeeper wrote:

These are some of the commonon questions that are being asked by all the guys who are pre and post Testosterone.

So, you can tell us here, about your changes, these will help all the young men coming here and the ones who have just started on T.

This is for you Finn. Smile

Oh. Maybe I wasn't supposed to answer, since I've only just started on T! Still, I'm hardly a "young" man... Wink

**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1487 Location: Reading

Dave you may not be young in age, but as you've been taking T for a couple of months, your still a yong man.

Wink

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william

thefishkeeper wrote:

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?

This part of the thread has come to my attention with alarm bells and I think you should listen to Nicholas when he is trying to help you make an accurate post.

If you are indeed asking if people self-medicate (ie obtain their T without a prescription) then fine, that's a legitimate question.

However, you have worded it incorrectly by putting it along with the options to the question referring not to obtaining T, but to administering it in the body.

If you want to ask if people self-medicate, (this is a possible answer to the question about obtaining T) it should be in the question along with ''are you with the nhs, going private or self-medicating.

The question below on your post should be changed to self-injecting as the question is not asking how hormones are obtained but whether the person does the injecting by themselves or not.

The way you have worded it implies self-medicating and self-injecting are the same thing, and that people who are getting T via prescription and injecting themselves are still self-medicating. Which is of course wrong and misleading as then people reading this who don't know better could think it is a negative thing to self-inject.

TFK I realise not everyone has the best written grammar, and fair enough, you get your point across often with spelling and grammar being a bit sloppy. But I think when someone points out a mistake you have made in an important post, especially if they say your post is misleading, then in that instance I think it is better for everyone if you take other people's opinions into account and correct the mistakes rather than immediately dismissing them with this proud attitude you seem to have. And you will correct them if you really do care about this thread's main purpose in providing accurate information on T, so I guess we'll see what is more important to you soon.

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**Juz** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1000

Although I do agree with Nicholas and William in the linguistic aspect ("self-injecting" does not equal "self-medicating", especially in the contest of the question), last passage of William's post just screams for a PM rather than a public board.
William, if you need explanations, I'm just a PM away.

I suggest, we go with the topic and leave TFK to act. Since the thread is sticky and thus is meant for posteriority, I'd really appreciate to have all off-topic comments (including this one) removed and should the discussion continues, take it to PM.

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Adam · Tzoner Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 254

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?
i'm on Sustanon 250 every 4 weeks

What changes did you notice first?
Down below changes

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?
No but then again i have only been on T for a little while

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?
N/A

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?
NHS

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?
My doctor writes the prescription

If private, what help are you getting, if any?
N/A

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?
Nurse does it for me

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william · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject:

Juz wrote:

Although I do agree with Nicholas and William in the linguistic aspect ("self-injecting" does not equal "self-medicating", especially in the contest of the question), last passage of William's post just screams for a PM rather than a public board.
William, if you need explanations, I'm just a PM away.

I suggest, we go with the topic and leave TFK to act. Since the thread is sticky and thus is meant for posteriority, I'd really appreciate to have all off-topic comments (including this one) removed and should the discussion continues, take it to PM.

Fair enough, thank you for your input, Juz. If my last paragraph was too strong I am happy to edit it or delete it but I felt it was necessary to get the point across as Nicholas basically said the same thing I did and got dismissed rather rudely. I won't go into it further. Any mod feel free to delete off-topic posts and leave it at that.

cheers.

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Finn · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject:

I guess I can post here now!!!

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?
I'm on Nebido 1000mg (4ml)

What changes did you notice first?
*runs to mirror again* give me a few weeks... Wink

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?
N/A, but I had thought I'd probably be on Sustanon. I picked Nebido as Dr. Curtis advised me it was less likely to give mood swings and acne (which is a relief, as I'm still suffering from teenage skin). Also, I'm not the biggest fan of injections!

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?
N/A

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?
I received my prescription from Dr. Curtis, but my local surgery funded it for me, so I just have to pay the NHS prescription charge (£6.85 I believe it was)

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?
My GP has been great, although it's been entirely new for her. She has helped me out with letters and most of all with getting the T funded for me.

If private, what help are you getting, if any?
I've seen Dr. Curtis twice now with a three month 'real life experience' between the two appointments.

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?
I do agree that the wording of this question should be changed, or the question split into two (i.e. 1. Are you self-medicating or do you have a prescription? and 2. Are you self-injecting?). I received my prescription from Dr. Curtis, picked the stuff up from the chemist, and got an injection from a nurse at my surgery. Simple!

Mike · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject:

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?

Sustannon 250 every 4 weeks.

What changes did you notice first?

Clitoral enlargement, increased sex drive, increased appetite, stomach hair growth.

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?

Testosterone has stayed the same. Have now been on it for 2 years.

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

N/A

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

NHS

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

Doctor writes prescription for T every 6 months. He is very supportive.

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

N/A

Are you self medicating or do you get a nurse or GP to inject it for you?

Nurse does it for me.

FuturePrince · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 33 Location: Hertfordshire UK

What Type of testosterone did you first start on?
Sustadon 100MG weekly

What changes did you notice first?
Downstairs, sex drive and then probs my voice

Have you changed testosterone since starting, if so to what?
No but I need to go on the nebido 1000MG soon, i just gotta raise the cash for it >.<

If changed, has the new testosterone make a big difference?

I'll tell ya when i find out.

Are you private or on the NHS, in taking the testosterone?

Private, gotta love Dr C although the private prescription prices suck ass

If with NHS, what help do you get from your doctor?

I asked my GP yesterday about going share care, he said the blood tests were fine but needs to talk to some other people higher up about funding me the nebido.

If private, what help are you getting, if any?

I see Dr C every 3 months and we talk about whats going on etc and if im doing alright.

Do you self medicate? (any form of T).

nope its all legal

If injecting? Do you get a nurse / GP to inject it for you?

No I get my mum to do it for me cos I dont like needles lol..