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**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1444 Location: Reading

Read this and it should help you all.

http://www.beautycare.com/cgi-bin/trends/viewnews.cgi?newsid946511754,71889,

Shaving: Many women have light-colored "peach fuzz," but men don't, so shave it off. Again, use a good razor and shaving cream, followed by aftershave. Shave your sideburns every day and your whole face as often as needed. Make sure you also shave your upper lip - a light mustache is actually far more likely to give you away than to help you pass.
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**Flameboy** · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: SHAVING.

thefishkeeper wrote:

Read this and it should help you all.

http://www.beautycare.com/cgi-bin/trends/viewnews.cgi?newsid946511754,71889,

That's a really useful article, thanks for thet TFK!

thefishkeeper wrote:

Make sure you also shave your upper lip - a light mustache is actually far more likely to give you away than to help you pass.
Wink

Although this is conventional wisdom often quoted on FTM sites, I happen to disagree with it. My moustache is still pretty thin, so I followed this advice and started passing a LOT LESS. I've now let it grow back - I like it, and it does help me pass.

My theory is that it depends who you want to pass with. I reckon that the vast majority of people who you see in passing (ahem, no pun intended) will register dark hair above top lip = moustache = man rather than thin hair above top lip = old lady moustache = woman - the latter won't even occur to them. I'm talking here about people such as shop assistants, bus drivers etc - it's now very rare that I don't pass when I talk to these people, and their perception is on first glance. Even in a slightly extended scenario, such as the bar staff when you're spending an evening in the same bar, or restaurant staff etc, since you haven't corrected them the first time they've called you "sir" they stick with it for the rest of your visit.

Anyway, let's face it, how many women of our ages (a broad age range here, but I'm certainly including pretty much everyone below retirement age, and quite a lot above it too) who had this amount of facial hair would NOT do something about it to make it less obvious?

Dave

**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1444 Location: Reading

You've got a tash all READY ..*(&^^%$£"(&^%$£()&^% Doh!

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Nathan · Tzoner Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 810 Location: Brighton

shaving off mine did nothin but make me look younger

i guess it depends on your age cuz i can get away with teenage fuzz cuz i am still a teenager!

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Elliott · Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Liverpool!

see, i know that shaving every day is supposed to make it grow more, but i love my stubble, and i dont feel right without it, and i find i pass a lot more when i let it grow then when ive just have a shave...

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**thefishkeeper** · Advisor Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 1444 Location: Reading

I have been biting my tonge, but can do it any longer..........

I tried to get the tash to grow, after nearkly four months I gave up, shaved the little that was there, ever tried shaving holding up a magnifing glass, a tad difficult.

As for the rest....yes you can see some thiing but it would be nice for it all be cover the face instead of growing in clumps.

A chap told me to shave every other day, that way you do not get burns, but it will make it grow...does hell as like...grow I mean, but the burning stopped, so I will keep shaving and hoping.

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snowdoggy · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 181 Location: East Yorkshire

I have found that the best time to shave is straight after a bath as it opens up your pores and make the stubble stick out which gives you a closer shave. I have only recently been getting any decent hair growth and I have have been on T over a year (although I did have a bit of a tash before starting on T) I have a reasonable tashe now and goatee getting quite thick but what is really weird is the amount of hair I'm getting in my nostrils and really long but only random ones on my neck Shocked

The slowest growing bit I have found is my sideburns which are, still even after a year on T, coming through more like fur than hair but it is thickening.

Something that may be of interest to you all is that this surge in hair growth only happened after I switched from Sustanon to Nebido. I have been told that T is T but it definitely seems to be growing thicker and faster since being on Nebido (I must also add that I have also been getting far more spots since switching to Nebido also, mostly on my chin and upper back) even as far as now if I do shave the stubble is back the next morning.

My main hate is that I am a ginge but my facial hair is blonde (including eyebrows) so my facial hair is not very visible other than when in bright light or sunlight Mad

Was considering dyeing it but I dyed my hair black a few weeks ago and I look really creepy with black hair and blonde eyebrows Laughing

Elliott · Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Liverpool!

do you think its an age thing maybe? no offence intended to anyone at all like, but Dr. curtis who i saw said I should see lots more changes because im young and still going through puberty.. or another one ive heard is that you follow the characteristics of the other men in your family.. like my brother and dad all have epic beards, they shave in the morning and its back by noon... i dunno...

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Skyler · Tzoner Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 934 Location: Canada

I'm not sure age makes a lot of difference. I've seen pictures of guys who've started in their 40s or 50s and some had beards within months! But perhaps it helps to be past menopause to begin with.

On the other side there's guys who start very young yet years later can't grow much for facial hair.

The main thing is genetics.

RD · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 53

Skyler wrote:

On the other side there's guys who start very young yet years later can't grow much for facial hair.

Some biomen aren't able to get much of a beard. I wouldn't worry too much, just see what happens and hopefully it'll come in as much as you'd like, if not, it happens. Wink

Skyler · Tzoner Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 934 Location: Canada

I wasn't talking about me Wink

But yes some non trans men can't grow beards until their 30s or even ever

I was just saying I don't think age makes that big of a difference in regard to effects of T

RD · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 53

I didn't think you meant you, just referring to your post, backign it up, giving a general note to everyone. Not that Iw as obvious about it. ^^;

sallystark · Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 30 Location: hampshire,uk

hi guys,just a little piece of lore that you may not have heard about,if you want something to grow faster,hair,nails etc,trim it a little during the moons waxing phase,to slow down growth,trim during the waning phase.i know it sounds silly,but try it,you will be pleasantly surprised by the results.

**Reenie** · Reporter Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 3278 Location: Glasgow

400 years ago we'd have burnt you at the stake. Smile

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sallystark · Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 30 Location: hampshire,uk

lol,thanx for that reenie,i would only have been hanged in england lol,burning was more a continental thing.another pet hate of mine is diet drinks and artificial sweeteners,i think its spelled asperitine,a slow poison,widely used in the manufacture of low calorie drinks and food.avoid it like the plague.