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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Spiro and baldness?? Reply with quote

Hmmm...

Im taking 200mg spiro a day in 2 pills (each 100mg) can it cause baldness?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of confused...why would it? If anything it would prevent it. Maybe I've missed something.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything I've ever read says spiro should reduce male pattern baldness.

otoh, getting older is known to cause baldness in both men and women (and others), regardless of hormonal balances. I assume you were getting older while you were taking spiro, yes?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herb wrote:
I assume you were getting older while you were taking spiro, yes?

I wouldn't count on it, Herb. There are some from parallel universes on this forum where black is white and things are upside-down and inside-out and so forth, so nothing would surprise me! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spironalactone tends to only be used in women for hypertension because of it's anti androgen effects it's not really used for men.
in transsexual women it is useful for treating hypertension as it has a combined antihypertensive and antiandrogen effect.i don't know of any evedence that it causes baldness.it is more likely to reduce or stop it because of it's antiandrogen effect.there are better anti androgens like cyproterone acetate or goserelin but spiro is good for high blood pressure in transsexuals.a lot of people put on weight when they start eostrogen and that puts your blood pressure up which needs to be treated.
any hair loss will be halted by eostrogen and you might get some regrowth but in general anti androgens or hormones wont make hair grow back that has been gone for over 10 years as the follicles are dead by then.hair transplantation is an option but if hair loss is extensive then it is a waste of time and money.i have had very little regrowth of hair with finasteride and eostrogen but i lost a lot of my hair a few years after puberty.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im 22 this year so Im not that old:) I start losing hair since Im on spiro to be hones but maybe its just stress. How about stretch-marks?? Lol I start wondering whats its wrong with me lol feeling like kind of freak lol:)I start losing lots of waight sinc hrt...everything wrks oposit on me lol:)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And just one more question about spiro. What is ur opinion about this tablebs?R they relly helping? R they too weak? Or can transwomen can have good results on it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious do you have long hair and when you say your losing your hair is it residing(sp?)/bald patches or do you just have hair falling out.
Mines reasonably long and i get plenty of hair falling out but im not going bald or residing(sp?) i was a little worried to start with but since im on going bald im guessing its fine.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have long hair,hair falling out really badly but I dont have any bald patches.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quetion if people are taking 200mg of spiro, yet I'm only taking 50mg of Cyprone actetate why am I getting major results in preventing hair loss yet at such a small dosage?

Any Ideas on why this happens?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgian wrote:
spironalactone tends to only be used in women for hypertension because of it's anti androgen effects it's not really used for men.
in transsexual women it is useful for treating hypertension as it has a combined antihypertensive and antiandrogen effect.i don't know of any evedence that it causes baldness.it is more likely to reduce or stop it because of it's antiandrogen effect.there are better anti androgens like cyproterone acetate or goserelin but spiro is good for high blood pressure in transsexuals.a lot of people put on weight when they start eostrogen and that puts your blood pressure up which needs to be treated.
any hair loss will be halted by eostrogen and you might get some regrowth but in general anti androgens or hormones wont make hair grow back that has been gone for over 10 years as the follicles are dead by then.hair transplantation is an option but if hair loss is extensive then it is a waste of time and money.i have had very little regrowth of hair with finasteride and eostrogen but i lost a lot of my hair a few years after puberty.
rachel


hypertension? are you %100 sure about that? I thought it was mostly treating women for high levels of Testosterone for unwanted hair.


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spiro is good for high blood pressure


I kinda figured that's what the medication was mostly used for I could be
wrong.


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any hair loss will be halted by eostrogen and you might get some regrowth but in general anti androgens or hormones wont make hair grow back


and how many mg of eostregean would needed for hair prevention?

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i don't know of any evedence that it causes baldness.


As far as what I've read, too much anti-androgean can possibly cause baldness as Testosterone has nothing to do with pattern baldness as it can occur in women too, but can also cause pregenantcy problems in women taking it, it's also used for the treatment of acne problems as my GP have informed me of it's side effects between men and women.

But when I mean possible I mean it may or maynot happen.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackandPurple wrote:


As far as what I've read, too much anti-androgean can possibly cause baldness as Testosterone has nothing to do with pattern baldness as it can occur in women too,.


Testosterone is responsible for causing pattern baldness, in its more potant form of dihydrotestosterone anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nenaw wrote:
BlackandPurple wrote:


As far as what I've read, too much anti-androgean can possibly cause baldness as Testosterone has nothing to do with pattern baldness as it can occur in women too,.


Testosterone is responsible for causing pattern baldness, in its more potant form of dihydrotestosterone anyway.



dihydrotestosterone? never heard of it.

Is that also the cause for some women to go bald as well?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackandPurple wrote:
nenaw wrote:
BlackandPurple wrote:


As far as what I've read, too much anti-androgean can possibly cause baldness as Testosterone has nothing to do with pattern baldness as it can occur in women too,.


Testosterone is responsible for causing pattern baldness, in its more potant form of dihydrotestosterone anyway.



dihydrotestosterone? never heard of it.

Is that also the cause for some women to go bald as well?


there are lots of causes for people going bald, both male and female ranging from stress to alopecia.

dihydrotestosterone is a major cause in male pattern baldness, as the hair folicles (on some people) on the top of the head are sensitive to DHT.... I presume this *could* be a cause in women going bald too as both testosterones and estrogens are naturally present in both men and women.

it would be incorrect to say it was the only cause though

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that it is possible to lose hair on spiro however it didn't cause baldness i think it was due to the temporary hormone upset and don't forget women lose some hair due to breakage etc anyway.

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